Political Realities

with Senator Nikil Saval

In this episode of Cleaning Up Dirty, Senator Nikil Saval tells Liz & Sean about his journey from a journalist with no plan to run for office to unseating a 10+ year incumbent, then passing bipartisan legislation in a purple state. We discuss whether Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump in 2016, the Harrisburg Shrug and partisan politics—especially given the influence of the fossil fuel industry in PA—and how to kindle our patented ‘reckless optimism.’

We also talk building community to spark little fires, particularly in labor organizing — and even shout out UAW, since Liz helped found UAW’s local Defenders Union 5502.

#TheresHopeYall #KeepFighting

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